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REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

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REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby DOC » 19 Jan 2010, 15:59

Allmost since the begining of the WA GBBR era I was after a VIS for my WA.
RS or AS, don´t matter but I had to wait quiet a while until something was available.
Prime early announced a VIS and I shizzled my pants but ...nothing happened.
Then finally last year I heard solid rumors from my HK contact
that Bomber is planing to release a CNC VIS soon (that was in september)!
and I preordered mine at Rhino Airsoft.com


Packaging
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The kit came in a simple plain cardbox, all larger parts carefully wrapped in cushion-foil,
the smaller parts packed in plastic bags. Just as usuall but not as "perfect"
like the Prime or G&P boxes with pre-stamped inlets to hold the parts in place during transport/shipping.

Initial impressions
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"WOW, great piece of CNC machining" where my first thoughts, very black finish that matches my Prime lowers perfectly.
No scuffs or scars from shipping and handling, everything in perfect condition how it should be.

Kit contents:
- VIS-1 with barrel nut and dust cover pre-installed
- 7.5" aluminium outer barrel
- Vltor style low profile gasblock
- short gastube
- Noveske type flashhider
- proprietary barrel nut wrench
- adaptor for WA length bolt carriers
- various shims for the flashhider
- rubber BCG buffer
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Built quality and finish
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Overall machining quality is very good allthough it can´t match Prime´s final finish
in terms of tooling marks and and overall apearance ...just to clarify, I´m nitpicking here, this is still top notch.
The surface finish itself is hard anodizing which feels indeed more durable and scratch resistant,
than the only regular anodized Prime receivers.

Not so "top notch" with this kit are the laser markings.
I mentioned earlier in another thread that the first batch seemed to have slightly "imperfect" markings
due problems in conjunction with the hard anodizing. ...it seems like they didn´t solved the Problem,
allthough I waited for the supposed to be improved second batch, the markings are still far from "super-crisp".

Bomber VIS laser markings:
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Prime MUR laser markings:
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Bomber...
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Prime...
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"One-piece" design
As some of you might know, the real Vltor VIS is not a true one piece design like the LMT MRP.
Even if it apears to be milled from one solid billet,
it´s actually made of two pieces, upper and rail, that are cleverly connected to each other
with some sort of welding/glueing process.

The Bomber VIS on the other hand, IS milled from one piece from one end to the other.
A true one-piece design you ask now? Well, not completely, the thread for the barrel nut is actually a insert,
fixed by two bolts or pins and very good hided under a barely noticeable covers on each side.
While this would be maybe no good idea for the RS VIS, for airsoft use it´s solid enough for sure.
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Well, it´s a matter of opinion and up to yourself in the end how to judge that feature
and that´s why I have listed it in both, the pros and the contras of the summary.
Personally, I prefer Bombers solution since I highly doubt they could achieve the same rigid results as Vltor...


Installation / compatibility with Prime lower receivers
Allthough the Bomber VIS is real steel speced and designed for use with with Prime lower receivers,
I had issues with both of my lowers and wasn´t able to fully close the VIS
for pushing in the takedown pin right out of the box.

The mod:
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To make the VIS properly fit my Prime lowers, I needed to carefully remove some material
arround takedown pin area, where upper und lower contacts.
I did that very slowly and gently with a very small flat file but a dremel will do the job of course, too.

While it´s annoying to do that on a brandnew, super nice finished item,
I´m also not 100% sure if that is actually Bomber´s or Prime´s fault since the regarding areas on my Prime lowers
are both not machined perfectly (small but noticeable step in the radius).
I cannot imagine, they didn´t testfit their VIS on at least 2-3 different Prime MBK´s before releasing
...on the other side, two different Prime lowers with the same problem...

The rest of the installation proccess is pretty simple since the dust cover is allready installed
and similar to usual uppers/rails. The proprietary barrel nut and -wrench
that came with the kit are both made of steel and work very well
allthough screwing on/off the nut can be a PITA due the "small" gap for access.

As a nice addition to the kit, Bomber also included a perfect fitting (unlike the G&P buffers)
rubber buffer for the BCG. Only downside here is that the included gastube is too long for use with the buffer,
since it extends into the upper as much as the RS/INO gastube.
...so it´s your choice, cut down the tube for the buffer or use a INO bolt carrier/RS carrier key,
I´m going to cut it down because the hole on my RA-T key isn´t deep enough
and I prefer it to have the buffer installed.
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Summary
All together, I´m pretty satisfied with my latest purchase ...ok, the needed mods and laser markings
where not so nice but in the end I still got more then 90% of what I have expected.
Because of the needed mod I was able to fit it to my Magpul lower 100% perfect without any whobble,
in any case I prefer that over the oposite issue where you need to add material
to reduce play between the receivers.

Pros
- "one-piece" CNC design, eventually even more durable then the original
- hard anodized finish
- very well built/machined
- authentic lower rail/locking mechanism
- easy to access HU due removeable lower rail

Cons
- "one-piece" CNC design, not accurate to the RS counterpart
- may needs modification to proper fit Prime lowers
- laser markings are partly "imperfect" but acceptable
- gas tube needs to be shorten to use RA-T/WA/G&P/... BCG and/or the BCG buffer


Rating
Overall I´ll give the kit 8 / 10 points,
minus one point for each, the need to mod and the laser markings.

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bp7178 wrote:I'm shocked something didn't work with an AGM.
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Re: GGI REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby Arion » 19 Jan 2010, 16:45

Nice review, great pictures! I have a question though, you mentioned that it is "hard anodized". Does that mean that, like real ARs, even if it gets bumped around or it get's hit by something, the finish won't be damaged? Because I noticed that with airsoft guns, the paint scrapes away from the aluminium receivers, showing the shiny aluminium underneath. I've never seen this on real guns. Is that due to the hard anodized process?
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Re: GGI REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby DOC » 19 Jan 2010, 16:52

Arion wrote:...Is that due to the hard anodized process?

I would say yes, but the "hard anodizing" of the Bomber VIS is still not near a real MIlSpec finish
but more resistant and durable then a regular anodized surface.

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Re: GGI REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby Arion » 19 Jan 2010, 17:20

Well... I hope you cringe and fear every time you might scrape your VIS-1 during skirmish... That's the cost of having the l33test-coolest gun around ;) Seriously, if you could keep us updated on how the finish holds up.
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Re: GGI REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby ThaFlash » 19 Jan 2010, 21:22

I've seen sloppier laser engravings on Larue items.

Looks like a nice kit. I'd love one in rifle or mid length rail.
every stupid airsofter wrote:Oh no, my gun won't work and I don't know why. Everything is exactly how it should be. Oh, I did break it though, do you think that could be part of the reason why it doesn't work?
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Re: REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby aemaeth » 08 Feb 2010, 17:07

Hi.
Received my bomber VIS two days ago.
So the trademarks are nicely mades, and in a better shape than the ones on DOC Upper.
And the compatibility with a prime Magpul Lower is very good.
No modification at all

So maybe the've made a second batch with some modifications. :thumbup:
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Re: REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby DOC » 17 Mar 2010, 12:15

VIS Update:

...I must admit that since I own the Bomber VIS, I wasn´t able to testfire the whole built untill now
because of the lack of a replacement for my broken hop up chambre

Now that I have the spare parts installed plus the new Pro-Win mags,
I encountered a small machining error:

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For comparison, that´s how it should look like:
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It took a while to notice that fault since only the Pro-Win mags where difficult
to insert at the last 1-2 mm, all my other mags (WA, Pmag/GHK, KUI) are troublefree in that regard.

Anyhow, the excess material needed to be removed for a proper function of all my mags.
I did that with a Dremel, that´s the result:

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...now everything is working like it should ;)

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Re: REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby mod 16 » 17 Mar 2010, 12:46

maybe you dremeled off a safety mechanism to stop the use of RS stuff? dno haha... ;D
I M PROBABLY WRONG
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Re: REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby DOC » 20 Mar 2010, 15:12

Don´t think that was a "saftey" of that kind ...all other WA uppers,
no matter if the plastic WA or the highend Prime ones, are designed that way.

@aemaeth:
Does your VIS have the same "machining error"?

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Re: REVIEW: Bomber VIS-1

Postby DOC » 13 Apr 2010, 13:19

Small update after a few skirmishes with the VIS:

The VIS works perfect, no difference to a Prime upper.
Allthough I allway use a front grip, the removeable bottom rail/lower handguard
still sits super tight with zero whobble when locked into place.

I also got the chance to testfit/ -shoot the VIS with a INO 09 lower
...fantastic fit and function with zero whobble
and even the finish fits very good between Bomber and INO :thumbup:

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